Encounter With a Polar Bear

When Huskies meet a Polar Bear, something happens.

BTW: They said the Polar Ice would be all gone this summer. It’s August. Where’s the pictures? The proof? Hello?

Arctic ice was an average of 1.3 meters thick in 2007, which is thinner than the 2.6 meters just a few years ago. What you see depends on where you look.

BTW, whoever said scientists said polar ice would be gone by this summer was exaggerating to make scientists look bad when it didn’t happen.

So haven’t sea level risen? Because it’s mostly sea ice that’s risen. In addition, there never was all that much sea ice to begin with. Add in the increased precipitation over lands near the polar regions and you could get an actual lowering of sea levels for a period of time. Last of all, it takes time for all that new sea water introduced in one area to spread out through all the oceans.

Wait till land ice starts disappearing, then you’ll sea beach front property moving up hill.

BTW, in a few years expect chains like Whole Foods to start selling Greenland potatoes as a specialty item (if they haven’t already).

Posted by mythusmage  on  08/05  at  12:53 PM

A follow up here.

The Independent? You relied on The Independent. The LA Times of great Britain and you trusted them? That would be like me trusting the San Diego Union/Tribune on our city attorney, the pension mess, or our peacekeeping in Iraq. There are liberals that know better than to trust The Independent. The Discovery Institute has better science reporting.

Posted by mythusmage  on  08/05  at  01:05 PM

I just grabbed the first one that came up on google. There were more. My point is, that was the big headline a few months back. I said I wouldn’t let them forget it.

BTW: Last I checked, polar sea levels were dropping, not rising.

The Antarctica ice is a more compex story. Most of it is the same or growing denser, while one part of the continent has harmed, somewhat.

Posted by  on  08/05  at  01:23 PM

While these are great pictures, the irony is that this is a pro global warming site.

Posted by  on  08/05  at  05:31 PM

Sea level is complicated by the fact that in some places the land is sinking, in some the land is rising. in some the sea level is sinking, and in some the sea level is rising. Scandinavia is rebounding from the last ice age. So is the Baltic Sea basin. While coastal Louisiana—- including New Orleans—- is sinking.

The whole picture is complicated by the fact this is the first time we’ve seen anything like this happen when we’ve had the tools to measure it. There’s a ton of shit we ignored because we didn’t think it was important. At a smaller scale a lot of it probably wouldn’t be important. At planetary scales they matter.

For example, consider the great controversy over planetary orbits. Copernicus and Galileo said they had to be perfect circles, because God made things in the heavens perfect. Other astronomers said the orbits had to be ellipses because that’s how the math worked out. This included those who supported the Ptolemaic System. Guess who was right.

Now consider Earth’s orbit. An orbit that ranges between 92 million miles at it’s closest to the sun, to a whole 94 million miles the furthest from the sun. On a very small scale a difference you could ignore. On an planetary orbit scale a difference that makes a lot of difference.

There’s an old saying in science; a student’s first masters thesis subject is always more difficult than the student was expecting. We are now watching the work on the first masters thesis in climate change, and it’s proving way more difficult than people expected. Factors once considered inconsequential are proving to be very important indeed.

Things will change. The changes will not exactly match what we’re expecting, but changes will come. But whatever happens don’t be too surprised when somebody figures out how to grow bananas in Vancouver. They might be in a greenhouse, but they’ll be grown in Vancouver.

Posted by mythusmage  on  08/05  at  05:32 PM

Well, the last warm period was a great time for agriculture in the temperate zones. However, the problem is, the weather has not been trending warmer this decade. It’s been fairly steady. Hansen was wrong (or lied, if you ask me).

The jury is out on whether warming is really happening. The IPCC keeps lowering their projections.

Posted by  on  08/05  at  06:02 PM
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